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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:40 am 
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What constitutes "believable" character ages came up today, and apparently we've left the subject alone far too long. XP

Since we have some people who want to play younger characters, what is a reasonable "minimum age" for people to get pilot's licenses?For Flight School to graduate?

Obviously there could be exceptions - what would be the reasons for such exceptions, and how rare? And what would be the hard limit - i.e., no exceptions under that age?

What different character options could there be for younger characters? (This is more a request for brainstorming.)

Potential question that could affect this:
• Should we judge things as humans or as Skyrates? What would be the differences between these? How would they affect the above questions? Would some species mature/age at a different rate? How "human" and how "animal" are Skytopians?

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 Post subject: Re: Character Ages
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:45 am 
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alliisara wrote:
• Should we judge things as humans or as Skyrates? What would be the differences between these? How would they affect the above questions? Would some species mature/age at a different rate? How "human" and how "animal" are Skytopians?


I've defined Deyo's lifespan as a rough average between a giraffe's and a human's, which means he'll live 50-70 years.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:53 am 
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Reasonable "minimum age" - I'd been thinking 15 or 14
Graduation from (any) FS - around 18, and that's reasonably necessary to have a legal flight license. Independent programs - where you come in and fly through your paces - might give them out to the younger ones (i.e., between 14/15 and 18)

Reasons for exceptions - particularly good pilots, AND having shown themselves to be emotionally mature. Also possibly in situations where there will be other rated pilots on board at any time the younger pilot will be flying, in case of emergencies.
Rarity - very. We almost never give out drivers' licenses younger than 16, and those are for special cases.

Younger characters - Could be relatives of pilots/crewmembers. Could be crewmembers (more likely if they're also related to someone on the plane) or apprentice crew. Could be stowaways/passengers/etc. Could live on the skylet/skyland where RP is taking place. Could be prospective future pilots. Could be pilot students (if old enough to go to FS). Could have fake ID, if they look old enough to pull it off. Could be captain of the ship while not being the pilot. Could have an officially rated pilot, and then be the real pilot when no one's looking. Could be illegal pilots (see below for risks/considerations there).

Skytopia seems to have very little actual law enforcement. However, the pilots would need to use landing strips, since with as little land as Skytopia has there probably wouldn't be many not-actually-official-landing-strips areas they could land in (it would all be built on/farm land/etc). As much as law enforcement may not actually punish illegal pilots, the landing strips don't have to let them land/take off, and illegal pilots would be a risk (due to higher probability of crashing/damage/etc). So an "illegal" pilot would have to take this into account.

Humans vs. Skyrates? Really, to me, Skyrates have always been people who happen to look animal-like. Most people only give nods to their species' food preferences (squirrels tend to snack on nuts, but will eat meat; carnivores may prefer the appropriate type of meat, but regularly eat waffles and fruit and veggies and drink milk). We certainly seem to be assuming they all age at the same rate. They also can interbreed between species (according to a dev) (note - children are one or the other, so no mixed breeds. A cat and a rabbit would have a mix of cat and rabbit children). So really, it's reasonable to apply human reasoning to this question, since they're pretty darn human.

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well Sky is 15. On accident though. See, Sky originally came about from some friend begging me to create a Sonic rp character. So I dreamed up this adorable white hedgie and named her Skylark. Then through developing her character, she now appears to be 15 but is really pretty old, like Shadow.

Now needless to say her skyrates rp age thing is different. Same with her back story and such. Skyrates Sky is supposed to be 18. But when people asked me I accidently said 15 so she's now 15 until the reset :/

I never really gave a thought to if they age in people years or animal years. Though the question about the babys did make me wonder. I always assumed that one of the parents would be like... a dominant trait. So the babys would take after that dominant trait. Like if you had a male horse and a cat lady.. well the babys would be little ponys. But that leads into a whole chaos of what species would dominate what.

*distracted* pooooooonys

though I am glad that there's no mixed breed children. I don't want Sky having mutant babys :fear:


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There doesn't seem to be any issue with retconning, and most people don't know what age Sky is supposed to be... so if you say she's 18, we'll all believe you. =P

You could always say she thought someone was asking about her sibling/cousin/long lost great aunt three times removed. Or just that she was confused about the question, or that she was lying for some reason. Or you could pretend it never happened, since most people now have no clue what age she's supposed to be. XP

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Regarding ages, I just assumed human-like ones, as they are easy for us to identify with. I ended up making my character in his early 20's, a reasonable age for a relatively new pilot and a relatively recent college graduate. And my character is a bit of a nutter at times...a trait in some humans...not to mention I gave him some human mental disorders.

I think modeling things on human traits is the easiest thing to do.

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This age in character has some interesting problems, as I and even older characters have been here before the Tortugan upheaval, our characters must seriously be in their 100s if character's such as sky who are 15 were born over a year after my own character was born.

Of course if you assume that Skylark has aged since she has joined and has stayed at a consistent 15 you run into even greater trials.

So as suggested in this thread..http://skyrates.net/forum/viewtopic.php ... ght=age..I think the weeks as years is our best option, making me a good old 72 in age. :shock:

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Man, I wanted a half bear, half boar too!

I've always assumed human aging patterns. BL, at 55 or so, is pushing it for combat, relying on experience over reflex.

Heh, as it's ended up BL never attended FS, instead ending up in a militia and going from there.

Anything under 15-16 just seems inane to me, and FS grad would certainly be no earlier than 18, and I always viewed it more as a University setting, putting grads in their 20s.

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The thing that gets me is my Skyrates character was supposed to be on the young side (right around 20-ish). Problem now is it doesnt make much sense IC. Ive been playing for long enough (now that 1 month= 1 year) that my Skyrate would be much older. Sometimes, I dont really know how to paly my character because I'm not sure if I need to be 20-ish or 40-ish.

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Anything under 15-16 just seems inane to me, and FS grad would certainly be no earlier than 18, and I always viewed it more as a University setting, putting grads in their 20s.


Word. In general I find IC age and lameness to be inversely proportional.

PvP is 34ish. Early middle-lame.

I think of the Big 3 (or Big 3.5) as being something like: Islo - 40's, Eltsina, late 40's, Fuseli & Emir Dalhoum - late 50's/early 60's.


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Agewise, my understanding is that game lore pretty well establishes that FS entry is at 15, graduation is 18, and while there are some exceptions they are few and far between. I can think of limited reasons for making an exception. Even with a driver's license I can show them I've got the skills until my ears bleed and I still won't get it till I'm old enough. I'm seeing maybe if there was a desperate need for pilots, or the character was River Tam without the crazy, then yeah, consider it, but only in extreme circumstances would an exception to the rules be made. It's frankly the sort of thing where it's not worth taking the risk.

Younger characters I'm sure would be around, they just probably wouldn't be pilots. It might be worth doing some combining of heads to determine roughly how large the R&P skylet is. It's not on any of the major skylands, but then again with some of the population numbers of some places the Skylands seem almost the size of Long Island or bigger, so a skyland could easily be the size of a medium sized town and still not be on the map. If that's the case, chances are they probably just live there. Other than that, most likely scenario is that they fly in with someone. Xavier I'm pretty sure rides with Phe, for example, or there's always the possibility of SkyTaxis.

Human/Animal, I play Dodg as primarily human mentally and psychologically with some remenants of leftover animalism as seems appropriate. (obsession with nuts, nervous around cats, skittish, etc.) The minute you apply sentience to something you automatically make it mostly human, cause we're the only example around to use. I doubt that the animalism could ever be more than a quirk or occasional flavor element, since if we seriously played as animals you'd have a scenario where Dod, Lavidia, and Ennia were fleeing for their lives with Mai, Kyra and Sadi in hot pursuit. (Which would actually be kinda funny, but...)

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Pierce N.V. Post wrote:
I think of the Big 3 (or Big 3.5) as being something like: Islo - 40's, Eltsina, late 40's, Fuseli & Emir Dalhoum - late 50's/early 60's.


Huh, so I predate the big names? They do have odd problems given that they exist in game and yet have to have pre-dated us all enough to have long established factions and traditions behind them. It might be time for them to disappear next round and fade into ancient history.

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Burrito Loco wrote:
Pierce N.V. Post wrote:
I think of the Big 3 (or Big 3.5) as being something like: Islo - 40's, Eltsina, late 40's, Fuseli & Emir Dalhoum - late 50's/early 60's.


Huh, so I predate the big names? They do have odd problems given that they exist in game and yet have to have pre-dated us all enough to have long established factions and traditions behind them. It might be time for them to disappear next round and fade into ancient history.


Some of us started our careers later in life. Deyo is about Islo's age, maybe a touch older.

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hmmm....so Deyo didn't graduate until his late 30s. :grin: That works for me.

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Younger characters I'm sure would be around, they just probably wouldn't be pilots.

You assume that the only way someone is going to be a pilot is by graduating the flight-school academy. Sadi didn't. She never was in flight school, in RP mythos. She learned how to fly from her father, and I'm sure there are many others who were homeschooled in their RP mythos.
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you'd have a scenario where Dod, Lavidia, and Ennia were fleeing for their lives with Mai, Kyra and Sadi in hot pursuit. (Which would actually be kinda funny, but...)

Yes. Yes that WOULD be funny. :grin:

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I imagine most pirates are homeschooled too... like the IC me. Character age wise... 15+ sounds cool to me.

I play my character more like human than squirrel.

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hmmm....so Deyo didn't graduate until his late 30s. :grin: That works for me.


Unless you count his engineering degree. ;)

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