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 Post subject: Skyrates' Valid Species: The Mammals Only Rule
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:36 pm 
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A Birds/Reptiles vs Mammals Only debate started up in Radio.
Of course, the rule is that mammals are the only valid races to choose from, and that all other races are frowned upon.
However, in practice, they tend to get raised eyebrows and interaction, since the players that generally use them are smart and wait until RP is quiet before experimenting.
While this is tolerated in RP, it's ironic how fervently it is put off in common discussion.

So, clearly, the rule is in debate. Whether it needs to be changed or not is up to the Devs, but I think it needs to be seriously dissected before we say such things as implying that just because it's been that way, it should stay that way.

So:
• Why are mammals the accepted group?
• What purpose does excluding birds or reptiles serve?
• Taking into account the recent increase in new RPing players, can we assume mammals are the only wanted choice?
• Knowing that more than a select few players would be interested in a well-played nonMammal in RP, why not?
• What evidence suggests allowing birds and reptiles will lead down a slippery slope any more than allowing mammals has?

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 Post subject: Re: Skyrates' Valid Species: The Mammals Only Rule
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:18 pm 
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Actually as it stands. I've seen only a handful of Skyrates who raise eyebrows at the longstanding tradition that has been character creation.

Since the dawn of forever, only the characters you select at game start have been accepted races. With a petition similar to this (as I understand), the races expanded to mammals. Now I could go into a whole slew of words about how because the Devs created us, we are to follow their words, but you've heard more than enough of that over IM.

But the bottom line still, and until they specifically say otherwise, is that what the Devs say, is what goes.

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 Post subject: Re: Skyrates' Valid Species: The Mammals Only Rule
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:41 pm 
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Artemus Delphus wrote:
what the Devs say, is what goes.

Maya wrote:
Whether it needs to be changed or not is up to the Devs


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I for one would love to hear what the Devs think of this rule being re-evaluated.

Of course, it seems the main reason why only Mammals are accepted is because people will go and do stupid things like make Bird characters that can fly around the room and do crazy things, and before you know it we're up to our Grotto in crazies.

That being said however, Maya makes a great point in saying that most Roleplayers are very responsible with Birds and Reptile characters, and that if done correctly they can be just as acceptable as most of us regular mammals. I'm sure we can count on our dedicated community of Roleplayers to keep those who are new to the experience in check. :secret:

I guess I'm more receptive to Reptiles than I am Birds, but only marginally.

Again, what the Devs say is what goes, but I'd love to see what they say about such a proposition and what potenial pros and cons could come from such a change.

Good idea for a topic, Maya! :thumbs:

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 Post subject: Re: Skyrates' Valid Species: The Mammals Only Rule
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:51 pm 
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I have messaged Taft in the only way I can get him here fastest to evaluate a number of topics similar to this. Hopefully, he'll make (or ask me to make) a comment to clear this up.


Until then, though

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 Post subject: Re: Skyrates' Valid Species: The Mammals Only Rule
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:23 pm 

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I added that to the Skybrary. I did try to rewrite it along with everything else, but it ended up worse than what was already there, but I'll have another go at rewriting it since I do agree that the statement is overly emotive.

afaik, the only public statement on non-mammals was that "It could be. For right now though, none exist in canon.". You could probably use such a statement to support any opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Skyrates' Valid Species: The Mammals Only Rule
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:29 pm 
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This is what you're looking for.

I apologize for resistance on my behalf.

So Avians and others, fly free. Only not really :P

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