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when should the sky fall?
Sunday night: 9pm Eastern = 6pm Pacific = 2am GMT 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
Sunday night: 12am Eastern = 9pm Pacific = 5am GMT 16%  16%  [ 12 ]
Monday night: 9pm Eastern = 6pm Pacific = 2am GMT (currently, dev meeting time) 25%  25%  [ 18 ]
Monday night: 12am Eastern = 9pm Pacific = 5am GMT 15%  15%  [ 11 ]
Monday night whenever we happen to wrap up meeting and can give a few minutes heads-up 16%  16%  [ 12 ]
don't care 22%  22%  [ 16 ]
Total votes : 73
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 Post subject: when's a good time for the server to be down?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:28 pm 
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I'll make a poll here once I hear suggestions.

Suppose the server were planned to be down on a weekly basis for nightly backup. Let's assume for the time being it takes an hour to come back to life. When would you mind an outage the least?

The one requirement is that it needs to be during hours of dev consciousness. I typically crash sometime around 7 or 8am, GMT, and show the world my sunny smiling face about 2-3 PM.

So far, we've been thinking Sunday or Monday nights (for us). That would be maybe 2-3AM, GMT; 9-10PM for us east-coasters. We could probably go a bit later since that hits the west coast around dinner time.

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Why the Sam Hill are you asking us?

By far the most vital question is when there's reliably a dev awake to kick the server, and you know your schedule far better than we do.

The only other relevant question, albeit a less important one, is player usage patterns, so as to minimize inconvenience when the server is out. But we're just going to dump our schedules on you, which is anecdotal at best and misleading at worst, given that not everyone and likely a non-representative sample will reply. Just go by the statistics you have access to; we'll adjust accordingly.

I know I've been a big advocate of the Developer Discussion forum and have been very happy with its use so far, but this seems like a pretty good exception.


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we have good usage data on an hourly basis but not day to day; we don't know other than anecdotally whether sunday is busier than monday, for example. mining the database for that would be highly tedious and suspect, so i ask. of course there's no time which works well for all. but i don't sense if this is even something people care strongly about.

it doesn't seem to do any harm to extend everyone the courtesy of listening. maybe it's pointless and futile, but i don't know until i try, do i?

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To keep it short: Do such work at a time when you (or whoever will do it) are reliably awake and sober and have a bit of extra time just in case anything weird happens and needs more attention. Any short term downtime is better than having six hour blackouts :)


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Oh, I see. I didn't know you couldn't easily compare day to day.

I still think this could use better direction though. Why don't you just post a poll now that gives only options that would work for you (and please give a translation into a Western Hemisphere timezone, to appease my preposterous ethnocentrism), and see what you get?


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2100 to 2200 Eastern time on just about any day would be cool as far as I'm concerned. If it's always the same day, I can plan for it.

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it doesn't seem to do any harm to extend everyone the courtesy of listening.


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Of the 168 hours in a week, I'm not terribly concerned about any specific single hour. :cheeky:

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Judging by RP activity, Sunday nights.


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Poll added. Personally, the most convenient time for me/us is probably Monday at 9pm EDT, because theoretically we're all on the phone with each other then. One of us is probably also near a computer.

The weekly meeting drifts somewhat though depending on our personal schedules.

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From my point of view I would prefer either of the 9PM pacific. But that's a highly biassed view based on the fact that it'll be 5AM where I am and I'll actually probably be asleep then.


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Brulak wrote:
To keep it short: Do such work at a time when you (or whoever will do it) are reliably awake and sober and have a bit of extra time just in case anything weird happens and needs more attention. Any short term downtime is better than having six hour blackouts :)


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Monday sometime is definitely a good time. Saturday night seems to RP night, as most dont have to get up the next day. Sunday would be fine too, based on this assumption.

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Sunday night, Monday early morning works for me, I'll be getting my beauty sleep.

But really, anytime that isn't that short forty five minute window I have before leaving for work and the cursed firewall of doom is good with me.

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Eh, I don't really care regardless, given the sporadic manner I play the game. The current reset time (whatever it is) works fine for me, given that I never notice when it happens. And even when I notice, so what? It only takes a few minutes, no?

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Doesn't matter. Whatever time you will choose will find me stuck on an island.


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Axel Nagant wrote:
Eh, I don't really care regardless, given the sporadic manner I play the game. The current reset time (whatever it is) works fine for me, given that I never notice when it happens. And even when I notice, so what? It only takes a few minutes, no?
Unless it doesn't come back up when and because it happens at the 'slack time' for the US when the Devs are often asleep it means then the server can be down four hours and hours (usually until Phil wakes up.)


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Tethran wrote:
Axel Nagant wrote:
Eh, I don't really care regardless, given the sporadic manner I play the game. The current reset time (whatever it is) works fine for me, given that I never notice when it happens. And even when I notice, so what? It only takes a few minutes, no?
Unless it doesn't come back up when and because it happens at the 'slack time' for the US when the Devs are often asleep it means then the server can be down four hours and hours (usually until Phil wakes up.)


If that happens, I just find something else to to other than Skyrates. I mean, I have the Xbox 360, hundreds of books to read, friends to hang out with, etc. Even if we get the thing offline for several hours, the devs should not have to mess about with their schedule just to bring the thing back up.

Given how long this round is, it is not like there isn't anything that can't be done on a sporadic basis either.

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Axel Nagant wrote:
If that happens, I just find something else to to other than Skyrates. I mean, I have the Xbox 360, hundreds of books to read, friends to hang out with, etc. Even if we get the thing offline for several hours, the devs should not have to mess about with their schedule just to bring the thing back up.

Given how long this round is, it is not like there isn't anything that can't be done on a sporadic basis either.


Well, obviously we all have other things we can do than play Skyrates. But if it's easy for the devs to change when this happens, then it would be great to have it at a time when they can make sure it doesn't go down for hours, yes?

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Axel Nagant wrote:
If that happens, I just find something else to to other than Skyrates. I mean, I have the Xbox 360, hundreds of books to read, friends to hang out with, etc. Even if we get the thing offline for several hours, the devs should not have to mess about with their schedule just to bring the thing back up.
I think you missed the point of this thread and my post with your reply. You originally said that "[i]t only takes a few minutes". I was pointing out that's not always the case. The problem with it at the moment is if it goes down for hours for some people this means they find it harder to play sporadically because it's down for hours at the time when they would be easily able to check it for just a few minutes. There are times when for those of use in parts of the world that aren't called the USA that it'll be down for a good proportion of the day, and even for folks who live in the US when it doesn't come back up some people there can't get on in the morning.

I also suspect that the times suggested may be times when the Devs would be around anyway and might well thus be able to give it a kick if it doesn't come back up and that because of that it wouldn't be 'messing about with their schedule' but instead trying to co-ordinate the server restart with when they're available. Please, correct me if I'm wrong Devs but that's the way I read it.


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